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My gerbils are chasing each other.....
If the gerbils you have have been together and living in harmony
for weeks, or months, and now suddenly they are chasing, fighting,
biting...
Separate them immediately....or if more than two, take out the
aggressor. You can try putting up a split cage divider and put
the aggressor back in and split cage for two weeks and see if
they will go back together. However with a larger group, this
often doesn't happen.
If the group (two or more) were put together as fairly young
pups and they are now 6-8 months old, they could be fighting over
dominance (a rank within the group).
If it was a mother and pair of daughters, and the daughters are
now 6-8 months old, one or both may be challenging mom. Or, it
was mom and daughters, and mom just passed on or was removed for
one reason or another... they are now sorting out who's dominant.
If it's just two, try split caging them. Often they will decide
to get along.
If it is a male group, same thing when the youngest ones come
of age or the older one gets old enough.
OR you zarched a sexing in your twosome or multi group, and it's
either girls fighting over who will be dominant and who gets to
breed with the male.... or it's males fighting over who gets to
breed with the female. Watch any apparent mounting behavior and
sort it out by the description below. IF for example you have
a trio and it ends up to be two of one sex and one of the other...you
can either remove the odd sex gerbil and see if the other two
settle... or decide to breed and remove one of the duplicate sex
animals to leave a breeding pair.
IF you've touched just one animal in the tank, it may be that
you've changed their scent/smell enough that the others perceive
them as 'intruder' or 'outsider' and attack them. I've heard reports
where someone stoked a wood fire, then touched a 3 week old pup...
and had the parents shred the pup. In this case you can try to
mask the strange smell with vanilla water, mite spray, or some
such thing... rub your clean hands with bedding from the tank,
rub the animal being bothered with bedding from the tank, then
spray everything and everyone in the tank lightly with the spray.
IF they persist, then remove the one being picked on. You can
try to split cage reintroduce them.... or if in a multi group,
perhaps split off ONE of the others, and split cage them with
the rejected one to make a new pair.
OR you've got some attempts at breeding going on.
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I just put a new one in with one or more I already have....
Any gerbil under 8 weeks old will probably (there are exceptions)
accept another young gerbil fairly readily. You do need to take
steps to neutralize or make both smell the same... An older male
will usually take one or two 5 week old male pups...again, you
do something to make sure all smell the same, but the instinct
to care for pups in this case, any pups, will get the male to
take the young ones.
Any gerbils over 8 weeks old, if you have TWO or more together
already, they are 'clanned'. If you try to introduce any other
ones, even with split caging, the clanned ones will try to kill
the 'stranger' or 'interloper'. IF you have really mellow and/or
young gerbils, they might take another one...this time. Later
you try it again and they will try to kill the newcomer sooner
or later.
It may be that you put some young pups together from different
litters, to make a same sex 'dorm' until they get adopted or you
pair them up for breeding. The younger they are the more likely
this works. As they approach that six to eight month old age,
often anytime over four months, it's likely that things will break
down and dominance fighting will start...or you took one out to
play with and somebody takes offense to their different smell
when they come back.
Especially with females, if you take one out to 'breed her then
put her back', even though she's in heat and accepts the male...when
she comes back she's going to smell different, and that will probably
cause fighting. THEN when she delivers, you're likely to lose
the pups from another female stealing them, killing them, or the
mother being too stressed out and killing the litter. If you want
to breed a female from a grouping, expect to take her out and
leave her out. Don't pair her up with one of her buddies, as that
will cause the same problems. Either pair her up with the male
to raise 2-3 litters or don't separate her.
If you take a male out to 'breed him then put him back' you will
have the same problems with him smelling different, and probably
being rejected by his clan. If you take him out with a friend,
expecting to keep that pair separate afterwards, the two males
will probably dominance fight over breeding the female, or the
two will fight afterwards.
Gerbils are best kept in pairs, trios or larger groupings eventually
break down and usually at the worst time (you're asleep, away
at work or school, etc). It can take less than a minute for one
adult gerbil to kill another.
When finally first introduced after the split cage period, a
bit of occasional chasing can happen, especially at the 30 minutes
mark, then at 3-5 hours. However up to twelve hours later they
can still decide to shred each other.
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I thought I had two of one kind but one is mounting the other
one!!!!!
This is dominance scent marking if they are the same sex. Look
carefully and you will see that the one on top is rubbing the
center of the stomach (where the scent gland is) on the back of
the other one. Mating, the one on top will be trying to connect
rear to rear, not stomach to back. Males or females, same sex
pairs, will try to do the scent gland marking sometimes when they
are sorting out dominance.
Different sex pair, of course, the female comes into heat every
four days, she can do so as early as six weeks, but up to 10 weeks
is not uncommon. The act itself only takes a few seconds...but
he will be a real pest and continue to do so for hours while she's
in heat. If the male was sexually mature and figured it out already,
if you have him neutered he will often continue just like he wasn't.
The only thing is the female won't get pregnant.
Experienced males have been observed trying to mate with females
as small as three weeks old. It doesn't work, the pups are too
small and scoot away. By four weeks the pups are big enough to
send him packing with their talons... until they come into heat
if they're still in with dad at six weeks old.
So. Chill out if you have a same sex pair and double check what
parts of the body the two are making contact with.
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Grouping gerbils....
Sooner or later a larger group will usually break down. Figure
on keeping your gerbils over 8 weeks old in pairs. Where one is
pairing off an old animal with younger ones, an old male with
two pups or an old female with a pair of younger females... so
when the older animal goes the younger pair can continue to live
together.
Breeding trios have problems, and eventually break down too.
When the group is younger it might work for awhile, but eventually...if
two females they will perhaps raise a few litters, delivering
about the same time and being supportive...then the dominance
issues will surface and one will try to drive the other off...or
one will have pups and the other one will try to steal them, and
in the stress caused, the mother or the other female will kill
the pups (usually around the 4-5 day old mark). If it's two males,
males will help raise any pups, they're programmed to. They can
fight over who gets to breed the female, and that can cause stress
that can cause her to destroy her litter.
Littermates or a few litters, put together when very young (5-6
weeks old) can be kept together in larger groups for a time while
waiting for a mate to come out of quarrantine or the like, or
before they are paired up to be adopted out. Groups of 5-8 can
be established- same sex- but as they get older the more likely
they are to have fighting happen. Any time after 4 months it can
happen. At best, it will last to 6-8 months when the dominance
issues usually come to the surface.
When trying to pair up same sex... an older male usually will
take one or two 5 week old male pups. A female, split cage, and
usually he'll be more acceptable than she. Try to make sure he's
the same size or larger than she is.
When trying to pair up to breed, do a split cage introduction...and
if possible, time it to when she's in heat to lift the barrier
for the first time and introduce them.
If you want to breed for a limited time, expect to do a 2-3 litter
session. Pair the two up, allow them to produce the first litter,
and he will rebreed her at delivery. Have him help raise the litter.
If possible remove him with the male pups (or if young enough,
the whole litter except..) and leave one or two daughters with
mom to help her raise the next litter. By six weeks old, make
sure dad only has one or two male pups with him. If you don't
get the father out in time when she delivers litter #2 she will
have one more. You can remove the older daughters and leave one
or two daughters from litter #2 to help raise #3, or leave the
first daughter(s) in. They will still be young enough not to cause
problems with mom in raising #3.
You can remove your pups at 28 days if you absolutely have to,
if you've seen them eating solid food and trying or drinking from
the waterbottle. Take them out with dad though, as they need to
learn various gerbil socialization skills, and he can care for
them and teach them what they need to know. Otherwise you can
remove them about day 35 and they'll be ready for adopting out
in a week. At that age they're weaned and doing well, but keep
them one more week before sending them off. If you leave female
pups in with dad, they may come into heat at 6 weeks and dad will
breed them.
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SPLIT CAGE INTRODUCTION
Best done in an aquarium. Construct a divider that goes from
corner to corner kittywampus, turning the tank into two triangles.
This is the easiest and best way to wedge the divider from persistent
efforts to get around it. Put just a waterbottle and possibly
a food dish if you use those, one on each side. Once or twice
a day, you switch the animals side for side. After two weeks,
they're used to each other's smell and so on.
IF they're trying to groom each other, sleep up against the divider
across from each other, etc, then those are good signs. Once you
lift the divider, you will have to spend 12 hours watching them,
with separation container and leather gloves handy. Take the tank
with you everywhere, even to the bathroom. It can take them less
than a minute to gerbilball and kill one or both. The crucial
times are right when you lift the divider, about thirty minutes
later, then about 3-5 hours later.
If however one of them is still jumping at the divider, trying
to chew their way through just to get at the other one, or trying
to bite off toes... after two weeks, give them one to two weeks
more without trying to put them together.
Don't clean the tank until after a successful introduction. Don't
try to introduce more than one gerbil to one gerbil. More than
one gerbil on one side of the split cage will 'clan' and all they
want to do is kill the solo one, who usually gets the idea early
on and will run, cower, and fight for it's life if cornered. NEVER
try to introduce one gerbil to more than one already grouped.
The only exceptions are leaving pups with parents, or trying to
introduce a pair of young male pups to an adult male.
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